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Future of Pakistani Media:Views On News – 26th October 2010

Future of Pakistani Media, both electronic, print and mass. 3 Mass Communications students (youth) discuss the issue including present role of electronic media in Pakistan, politics, politicians, dynastic politics, etc
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Submited By: Mujtaba
27 October 2010 GMT
Now the situation is really interesting … peoples party itna badnaam ho chuki hai keh mazeed badnaami se is ko koi faraq nahin perta
so … more defaming or blames or real stories of real corruption actually make them happy and are going into their benefit … now they are playing the game of words openly and easily … the simplest way to make opponent ruled out … is to say NO .. no no no .. kuch hai hi nahin .. koi saboot hai tu idalat main jayen .. hum per ilzaam lag rahay hain.. jab bhi pppp ki hakoomat aati hai sab loag aisay hi peechay per jatay hain …. etc
Saahibo … is waqt sab se bura haaal blochistan main hai ..jahan per yeh ghareeb aur faqeer hakoomat pani ki terah paisa baha rahi hai aur woh usi taizi se logon ki jaibon main ja raha hai … is dor e hakoomat main qaroon ka khasanah hasil kerna chahtay ahin tu blochistan main MNA ya MPA ho jaiye …
Saahibo .. cheeni mehngi kiun hai . .zardari sahib aap logon ke khoon se apni jaibain bher rahay hain …. bijli kiun nahin hai … zardari sahib ne heavy kick backs liye thay IPPs se jeb 95 96 main yeh muaahiday huye … jeb un ki hakoomat gayi tu unhon ne zardari se kaha ke han paaii toon kaun .. zardari sahib ne iqtadaar main aatay sath un ki khabar li tu unhon ne woh kia jo ap ke samnay hai .. wrnah aik sawaaal ka koi jawab de de .. 2007 main aik qatrah load shedding nahin hai .. aur 2008 main aik qatrah bijli ka nahin hai .. akhir sari bijli gayi kahan ?
idaron ki tu eent se eent bajayi hai hai . import export aur stock exchange ke ghplay tu kabhi ap tek pohnchain ge bhi nahin …. lekin kabhi ap main se kisi ne PSO ke baray amin bhi socha hai … nahin na .. sochain ge bhi nahin .. kabhi media is ke baray main kabhi kabhi kabih bhi zuban nahin kholay ga … aaap logon ke sath .. is qaum ke sath ho kia raha hai .. asal kahani tu yeh media bata hi nahin sakta .. aap yahan media ko kostay hain aur bura bhala bhi kehtay hain .. sach kehtay hain .. per kabhi un ke jootay pahen ker tu dekhain … kitni reports hain jo manzr e aam per nahin aa saktin … jo manzar e aam per ata hai woh tu asal ka 10% bhi nahin hai ..
benazeer income support program main … watan card main … aur is terah ki aur sakeemon main kia ho raha hai .. kisi ko khabar hai …
NAHIN .. main corruption ka rona nahin ro raha .. corruption tu sabhi kertay hain .. main tu rona ro raha hon is buri teah se corruption kernay ka … aik paisa loot tay hain tu kem ez kemso ropay ka nuqsan ker jatay hain qaum ka .. tu ab sochain ke 300 arab se asal main tum logon ka kitna nuqsan hua hai ..
aur nuqsan kabhi tu foran nazar aa jata hai kabhi 10 10 15 15 saal lagtay ahin .. ab dekho … 95 ke kick backs ka result tumnhain aaj mil raha hai .. aur beghairat tareen qaum jo is qurah e arz per basti hai .. jisay jiyala kehtay hain us ka kehna hai keh woh muaahiday buhut hi shafaaf thay …
lakh di laanat
Submited By: ConcernedAmericanPak
27 October 2010 GMT

technocrats said:

“In start, DR SM asked the guy if that is mass communication or mess communication.

I think the guy couldn’t understand the difference between “mass” & “mess”…..”

My dear, Mass communication is the term used to describe the academic study of the various means by which individuals and entities relay information through mass by which individuals and entities relay information through mass media to large segments of the population at the same time. It is usually understood to relate to newspaper and magazine publishing, radio, television and film, as these are used both for disseminating news and for advertising.

“Moss” (plant resembling moss) Communication

“Mess” (untidy condition) communication

My dear the Kids were right, the real pronunciation of the ward has emphasize on Mass from the masses, rather Dr. “no it all’s” pronunciation was close to Moss..

Like “mayass” is more like than mass, like in Urdu we call the skin “Mass”. I hope this makes sense to you.
Submited By: technocrats
27 October 2010 GMT
In start, DR SM asked the guy if that is mass communication or mess communication.

I think the guy couldn’t understand the difference between “mass” & “mess”…..
Submited By: Salam
27 October 2010 GMT

good program, dr. shahid is tellings us how is new generation trained, look at the teachers (reporters), all is about money, running after money…
Submited By: edcoym
27 October 2010 GMT
PPP defenders here: if you don’t like Dr.SM, why you watch his programs, I doubt you watch his programs, because you never raised the question from his program, that he is saying wrong here, so we can clear it with discussion. See Zardari’s reputation inside and outside of the country??? PPP waley will never allow public referrendum on PPP government performance, because they are scared of the results.

If Zardari is honest person then, why he and his party scared to bring all the corrupt peoples behind the bars???
Submited By: edcoym
27 October 2010 GMT

Like PPP politicians, PPP defenders here, are “Bay Hess” too they never talk about what kind of situation our public is going through, they never discuss public’s immediate problems, such as roti, shetler, electricity,gas,cng,diesel,jobs and their security etc., they think everybody is rich like them and getting free money from PPP, for defending them. They don’t talk about their misearable situation, when anchors get them and make them answer to the point, then they put blames for everything on previous government, anchor persons, SC, punjabis and sometimes on the Army (when they hear the sound of their boots coming nearer to them). Please put the nation and Pakistan before the party interest. So we can say you people are atleast patriotic people. If by heart you can’t do, atleast pretend that you are patriotic Pakistanis!!!
Submited By: ukpaki1
27 October 2010 GMT
Salam

i would say overall topic of discussion was reasonable, today we didn’t see those traditional faces who seven days a week defend their party agenda by rubbish and useless arguments and for the whole week they make arguments to prove that they r obedient servants of their respective party or gang leaders.

about this program, when doctor asked students y r u studying mass communication the student said ‘there is lot of despondancy in the society we want to communicate effectively bla bla’ obviously their first aim would be to get a reasonable job, then other things come. i would say that scope of mass communication is there in pakistan as there r no. of channels but what i think that many employees of these channels r underpaid, as i have come across few incidents where employees have protested for not getting salaries on time and one media personnel committed suicide as he didn’t get his salary on time n he had lot of responsibilities n he was a sole earner of his family.
i m not the expert but what i think that this subject is a theoratical subject.

@Bawa bhai
yet another version of bawa series, i mean another person with the id which includes word bawa was seen today. i guess ur id is the most popular id on this forum. do they all belong to ur fan club or is this nick their personal liking. the way ppl r making id involving term bawa, i think if u auction this id of urs, some ppl can give very high bids. ur thoughts about that.

May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Submited By: Adalat
27 October 2010 GMT
It’s sad to see that these children who are our future who want to get education and better themselves are being taught by reporters, which reflects in there below average communication skills.

I would suggest Mr. SM and other TV anchors to take some time from there busy schedules and volunteer to help groom thses kids. Also once in a while they should be invited to the TV programes to sit in as anchors and conduct shows.

We all need to do something to help our future generation and Pakistan. I am working on one project that I hope to announce very soon on PK politics.
Submited By: azhar123
27 October 2010 GMT
I have a feeling that Imran khan will do good in coming elections…All other parties have now shown that they can make any kind of allaince just for the sake of govt..PTI has proved that they will stand on principles and ppl shouldnt be that blind that they will vote for the same old guys of PPP and PML…And recently I have noticed that PTI is doing good at ground level reaching upto general uneducated public also..Its a sad tragedy of pakistan that here govts are made by votes of uneducated ppl..If even 20% of the uneducated ppl show support for PTI,they can do very well as majority of educated ppl want to try Imran Khan ..For a party having small budgetlike PTI,they are quite well organized at UC levels especially in cities
Submited By: ConcernedAmericanPak
27 October 2010 GMT
The sad reality after watching this program is that Pakistan is in the hands of the “Brown Uncle and Auntie Toms”, the English regurgitating class of people who represents and communicates issues who are more representing to a utopian society for the top 5% of the Pakistani class.

This medical doctor wearing western clothes and overly aggressive attitude with irrelevant interjections and total contempt for his gusts due to his ego and power of the control on a program
Is the cream of the crop, a clueless, annoying and prophet of doom and despair.

The fact that he tried to correct the mass communication students pronunciation shows his lack of communication education and total contempt of the Pakistani intellectuals. As for the kids are concerned, I admire their honesty and their will to do good, but the sad reality is that they are educated in a flowed education system which is forced upon by the western crumbs of education system.

Pakistani elites are still using the modal of British colonizers and they themselves are either British or American residents, citizens or they have their children, families and wealth in the British/American banks and corporations and real estate. So in a since they are more like the British occupiers than the locals, their loyalties still are to the Queen more than the filthy, dirty, starving, hungry, uneducated, ill mannered with ill health Pakistani majority poor.

These kids are wrongly educated and are under the influence of the stupid and brainwashing American funded media. The proof is in their comment that media is a pillar of the government, it is not, it should not be allowed to influence government other wise the end result will be the American media run and media controlled commercial democracy.

For the education of the youth, I try to give a different opinions to look at and use your own abilities, especially your analytical skills.

This is how the British ruled India with less than .00005% population compare with the current around 5% Pakistani English regurgitating “civil society”.

**“As has been noted by numerous scholars of British rule in India, the physical presence of the British in India was not significant. Yet, for almost two centuries, the British were able to rule two-thirds of the subcontinent directly, and exercise considerable leverage over the Princely States that accounted for the remaining one-third. While the strategy of divide and conquer was used most effectively, an important aspect of British rule in India was the psychological indoctrination of an elite layer within Indian society who were artfully tutored into becoming model British subjects. This English-educated layer of Indian society was craftily encouraged in absorbing values and notions about themselves and their land of birth that would be conducive to the British occupation of India, and furthering British goals of looting India’s physical wealth and exploiting it’s labor.”

Now apply this modal on Pakistan, the Banziar Bhutto the best English regurgitating fraud and a woman who could not even speak the Urdu language properly due to her contempt for the majority poor and her ethnic pride, like her father, a UC Berkley educated C and D student, according to his classmate, “whom I had dinner with in San Francisco, a top Jewish attorney and business tycoon”, a womanizer and alcoholic narcissistic psychopath who was a great model British and American subject in Pakistan, destroyed the industrial revolution and the unity of Pakistan.

Now the next in line “Bill-awal Bhutto? Madari”, the metro sexual prince of doom who has been raised as seed in his corrupt to the core mothers womb on the blood, sweat and the miseries of millions of starved, uneducated, undereducated, human skeletons and un health and malnutrition Pakistani masses.

He is part and parcel of the English-educated layer of the Pakistani society, has been breastfed by the American Pakistani homo and bisexual mentor of PPP leadership, Hussein Haqqani, the master of the model British/American subjects craftily encouraged in absorbing values and notions about themselves and their land of birth that would be conducive to the British/American occupation of Pakistan, and furthering British/American goals of looting Pakistan’s physical wealth and exploiting it’s labor.”

**“In 1835, Thomas Macaulay articulated the goals of British colonial imperialism most succinctly: “We must do our best to form a class who may be interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern, a class of persons Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, words and intellect.”

Now I can write a book about this but Thomas Macaulay has beautifully articulated the goals of the British/American two headed monsters aspirations towards the Pakistani elitists and the end result is this Dr. and these young students and the rest of the English regurgitating, Judiciary, the Establishment and the political structure and the Family and ethnic Mafia political gulags of British and American subservient people and their a level O level, British and American educated demonic offspring’s, who are Pakistani in blood and color, but English in taste, in opinions, words and intellect.”

**http://india_resource.tripod.com/britishedu.htm
Submited By: pejamistri
27 October 2010 GMT
Dogtaar Kay khandaan mein aaj tak kisi nay mayss communication tu kia kabhi akhbar bhee nahin parha tha.
In bachoon ku dekh kar Pakistan ka mustaqbil buhat malhdoosh laga magar phir Dogtaar ku dekh kar tasalli hui.
Submited By: muhammad adnan
27 October 2010 GMT
dr bahut khata hai…. isko koi tameez ka khana dede koi
Submited By: sanairfan
27 October 2010 GMT
dr sahab yeh zardari pakistan ke jaan kyon nahin chor rha ?
Submited By: u4sultan
27 October 2010 GMT
Sir Saleem Raza ,

Dr. Shahid Masood only hope of PAKISTAN!!!!!
Submited By: Mujtaba
27 October 2010 GMT
and on a serious note …
we have got rid of bhutto factor to some extent with the help of Zardari (thanks to Zardari) .. but … Nawaz factor ko khan sahib kaisay tackle karain ge ..?
hmmmmmmmmm interesting question for me as well .. just thinking loud ..
Submited By: faiyaz
27 October 2010 GMT
Dr. Shahid takes the politicians for a ride so why he was playing with the kids. very unfortunate.
Submited By: faiyaz
27 October 2010 GMT
Dr. Shahid takes the politicians for a ride so why he was playing with the kids. very unfortunate.
Submited By: faiyaz
27 October 2010 GMT
Dr. Shahid takes the politicians for a ride so why he was playing with the kids. very unfortunate.
Submited By: Mujtaba
27 October 2010 GMT
aaj comment pata nahin kitnay aatay hain
lekin in teenon main se koi kaamyab sahaafi nahin ban sakta
agar in ka tarz e amal yahi raha tu
na tu aap logon main buri buri khabrain barri barri ker ke batana chahtay hain na aap ka kisi siasi jamaat se koii atluk hai … aap hain bhi musalman type yani right wing ke … aap ko kis ne poochna hai ..
Submited By: KhurramDBG
27 October 2010 GMT
Dr. Shahid’s program is my favorite political program.
Submited By: KhurramDBG
27 October 2010 GMT
Dr. Shahid’s program is my favorite political program.
Submited By: Happy
26 October 2010 GMT
Good effort from Dr Shahid Masood to show fresh blood of journalism to make more stronger independant and vibrant media.
But unluckily, all of 3 participants are immature and visionless.
This is also worry able matter for the future that nonconfidant journalist how could they handle the hypocrite polititions of the future because the bases of polititions are cunningness and hypocricy therefore it is most necessary that new journalist do much more hard work with honesty for the stability of our holy Pakistan and their profession also.
Submited By: karim dubai
26 October 2010 GMT
mera khaiyaal hai tv ney dunya ki aankhain khool di hain aaj koi bhi pakistani dunya kay kisi bhi mulk main hai who phal phal ki khabar say ba khabar hai
Submited By: Sulman
26 October 2010 GMT
wake up Pakis...develop more wisdom and confidence!
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